Bump: I asked Ken about the practice question, and learned that I had misremembered the section on transformation (p. 308, WUTYL.) It concerns specific emotional reactions like anger, jealousy etc. Thanks for all your support about the life situatio…
Love the poem John.
I like his willingness (ability) to just take only what is working and useful for him at the time, in a specific situation, and to let the other stuff go, to not even seem to worry about whether he is "following" the right path.…
I think you are right that giving this process lots of time is important.
As with all our experiences, welcoming them and accepting them allows transformation. So the pain and the disappointment needs your attention and compassion. It's really diff…
*Nod* And if I determine that the situation which is entirely to blame, and not this internal material, that's exactly what I'll do. Can't make that assessment until a peaceful relationship to the internal material has developed, though.
I just want the pain and the disappointment in myself to stop, and I'm pretty sure running away from the situation isn't going to help that much.
If the situation is what's causing the pain and the disappointment in yourself, then running away from…
"I just don't think my head's in the right place to choose wisely..."
Why leave to the head a matter of such importance to the heart? I get the distinct impression that learning to make a decision with the heart is what this is all about. In my exp…
Well the number four is less, but the poem is longer. This whole "Time" thing is such a conundrum I rather like the name 5 Bells, but then, since I lived in Japan for a while, I like the number 5. I also like (most) bells. I keep noticing how much I want to make a pattern out of something or just even find "the pattern that works . . ."
Wow what a deep poem; I'll need to re reread it several time. Odd that in such a serious poem there were pop out advertisements for various products & services. The joys of life on the computer in the 21rst century. Anyway, thank you for the explanation
Thanks for participating in the on-line discussion of Langri Thangpa's "Eight Verses for Training the Mind". We're closing this discussion with a summary, and I invite you to post your thoughts.
Bill
I had a discussion on skype with Ken today. Part of our discussion covered the exchange you and I had on the topic of antiderpressants. I got a result different than I intended at the end of our exchange. Ken helped me explore why this might have happened. I had wanted to open up the discussion by letting you know that I am puzzled by the difference in the results of the reviews of clinical trials and the response rates I see in clinical practice.In my post, I was postulating a possible explanation for the difference. That was the discussion I had wanted to have. I was especially interested in discussing it with you, because you are both a scientist and a meditator. I am still curious. My education is thin in the area you have expertise, so perhaps you would need to help me understand your terms and perspective more clearly before our discussion would bear much fruit.
If you are also curious, let me know.
At 11:32pm on October 14, 2008, Denise Finch said…